when the real adversary is the people
I have wrote before about the unwinnable war in Afghanistan and how Obama's policy of throwing more "combat" troops at the problem means he is obviously not looking at past mistakes in the exact same kind of conflict, but the truth is all he is doing is securing vital US interests in Afghanistan namely the pipeline from the Caspian Sea, there are no bad guys anymore, the Taliban has virtually no hope of defeating the coalition in a way the rebels in the 1980's defeated and drew back the Soviets and are instead wrecking as much havoc as they can in Pakistan, but not getting very much success in defeating anyone.

What the coalition and NATO forces in Afghanistan are really fighting (when they are fighting) is the people, which is whatmost of the soldiers fighting and ready to give their lives don't realize!
The Taliban are still active (not strong) and opium trade is at an all time high, (horrible pun) the attack on the village of Azizabad last year killed some 91 people including scores of women and children, in the documentary Afghanistan's Dirty War (YouTube link) several civilians state that the coalition force in Afghanistan have killed more civilians than the Soviets did during their war there in the 1980's.
Nobody likes foreign military occupation, nobody likes foreign soldiers, tanks and fighter jets on their land, a total military defeat of an adversary means nothing anymore, with a bit of will the people of a country rise up no matter what fighting for what they believe in on their land, two more examples here would be the War in South Lebanon which lasted from 1982 to 2000 and the First War in Chechnya which lasted from 1994 to 1995.
I will begin with the latter the war in First War in Chechnya which saw a poor Russia on the verge on economic collapse using military intervention to ensure the security of mountainous area of Chechnya, this begun with a heavy air bombing of it's biggest city Grozny which saw 27,000 people killed, the largest bombing of a civilian area since Dresden in the Second World War.
By the time ground forces of the Russian Army tried to seize Grozny it was met with heavy and horrible street fighting in a true dirty war.
Chechen guerrilla fighters (several of which were teenagers) armed with basic "garbage guns" mainly the Borz which was a very low cost sub machine gun made in very large numbers.
In the heavy engagements in Grozny several convoys (including ones with tanks) were taken out usually the first vehicle and the last vehicle damaged by precise fire (usually from high buildings where tank turrets could not angle up to) thus trapping other vehicles in the middle as sitting ducks in the narrow war torn streets of Grozny.
That war ended in 1996 due to virtually no support from the Russian public and even from several military officers and generals who mutinied before and throughout the war, a second war begun in Chechnya in 1999 which is lasting to this day, however Chechnya today is a federal subject of Russia.
The 1982 invasion of Southern Lebanon by the Israeli military saw them having total dominance over that land in their bid to eliminate PLO forces there, what it resulted in was the formation of Hezbollah not long afterwords which eventually ended forcing all Israeli forces out of Lebanon during an 18 year conflict, Hezbollah are considered heroes in Southern Lebanon and help their supporters or members aid after military engagements with Israel and work close with 'the people'.
Which is why the Israeli bombing of Lebanon in 2006 was really an attack directly on the people, justifications for hitting civil places was because the "terrorists" hence Hezbollah were using them as human shields for their rocket bases, which is why attacks with cluster bombs (which could handicap innocent people in the best case scenario) dropped from F-16's killed so many people, but the truth was at best they were indiscriminate attacks against those various collections of Hezbollah members and civilians were really just to scare the people of Lebanon and break their will therefore weakening Hezbollah but also resulting in the deaths of nearly 2,000 people!

I'm sure bombing Beirut Airport halted tourists
who wanted to see that truly beautiful country!
Sounds like general terrorism to me!
Bottom Line: In retrospect it's very hard or nearly impossible to break the will of a proud nation of people or a nation of people with common beliefs or therefore defeat them without simply wiping them out!

What the coalition and NATO forces in Afghanistan are really fighting (when they are fighting) is the people, which is whatmost of the soldiers fighting and ready to give their lives don't realize!
The Taliban are still active (not strong) and opium trade is at an all time high, (horrible pun) the attack on the village of Azizabad last year killed some 91 people including scores of women and children, in the documentary Afghanistan's Dirty War (YouTube link) several civilians state that the coalition force in Afghanistan have killed more civilians than the Soviets did during their war there in the 1980's.
Nobody likes foreign military occupation, nobody likes foreign soldiers, tanks and fighter jets on their land, a total military defeat of an adversary means nothing anymore, with a bit of will the people of a country rise up no matter what fighting for what they believe in on their land, two more examples here would be the War in South Lebanon which lasted from 1982 to 2000 and the First War in Chechnya which lasted from 1994 to 1995.
I will begin with the latter the war in First War in Chechnya which saw a poor Russia on the verge on economic collapse using military intervention to ensure the security of mountainous area of Chechnya, this begun with a heavy air bombing of it's biggest city Grozny which saw 27,000 people killed, the largest bombing of a civilian area since Dresden in the Second World War.
By the time ground forces of the Russian Army tried to seize Grozny it was met with heavy and horrible street fighting in a true dirty war.
Chechen guerrilla fighters (several of which were teenagers) armed with basic "garbage guns" mainly the Borz which was a very low cost sub machine gun made in very large numbers.
In the heavy engagements in Grozny several convoys (including ones with tanks) were taken out usually the first vehicle and the last vehicle damaged by precise fire (usually from high buildings where tank turrets could not angle up to) thus trapping other vehicles in the middle as sitting ducks in the narrow war torn streets of Grozny.
That war ended in 1996 due to virtually no support from the Russian public and even from several military officers and generals who mutinied before and throughout the war, a second war begun in Chechnya in 1999 which is lasting to this day, however Chechnya today is a federal subject of Russia.
The 1982 invasion of Southern Lebanon by the Israeli military saw them having total dominance over that land in their bid to eliminate PLO forces there, what it resulted in was the formation of Hezbollah not long afterwords which eventually ended forcing all Israeli forces out of Lebanon during an 18 year conflict, Hezbollah are considered heroes in Southern Lebanon and help their supporters or members aid after military engagements with Israel and work close with 'the people'.
Which is why the Israeli bombing of Lebanon in 2006 was really an attack directly on the people, justifications for hitting civil places was because the "terrorists" hence Hezbollah were using them as human shields for their rocket bases, which is why attacks with cluster bombs (which could handicap innocent people in the best case scenario) dropped from F-16's killed so many people, but the truth was at best they were indiscriminate attacks against those various collections of Hezbollah members and civilians were really just to scare the people of Lebanon and break their will therefore weakening Hezbollah but also resulting in the deaths of nearly 2,000 people!

I'm sure bombing Beirut Airport halted tourists
who wanted to see that truly beautiful country!
Sounds like general terrorism to me!
Bottom Line: In retrospect it's very hard or nearly impossible to break the will of a proud nation of people or a nation of people with common beliefs or therefore defeat them without simply wiping them out!
Labels: chechnyan war, hezbolah, lebanon war, taliban, war in afghanistan

